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		<title>By: JanewaysGirl</title>
		<link>http://countrylife.lehmans.com/2008/01/23/coal-chronicles-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-629</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 00:49:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wonderful blog! Thanks for the info and I eagerly await the future Coal Chronicles! We hope to order the same stove very soon and we&#039;ve gotten much knowledge from your experience!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wonderful blog! Thanks for the info and I eagerly await the future Coal Chronicles! We hope to order the same stove very soon and we&#8217;ve gotten much knowledge from your experience!</p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 02:36:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the very nice comment Bobby, I do hope the Hitzer has been working out well for you. Ours will cook us clean out of the basement.  Absolutely love that thing. 

A bit of history and explanation for the stove. We are originally from Michigan, we moved to Ohio in 2003. We moved from our duplex to our current house in December 2004. A week later the enormous ice storm hit NE Ohio, I am sure you remember it. Power was out for the better part of a week. Keep in mind the house is almost completely run on electricity, heat, hot water, stove, etc. For a week we had just about nothing. The fire place had not been used in the house for a long time. I did have it inspected before we moved in and it got a clean bill of health. We went to the local Lowes and got a screen for it, paid the long dollar for a load of wood, and huddled around the fire just about the whole time. All of us in one room for five days. 

After that I wanted to ensure our warmth and reduce the heating bills. Unlike many of the corn/pellet stoves the Hitzer does not need electricity. Sure it has a fan, but it will keep us warm without the fan.

The Coal Chronicles - Book III is done getting written and is in draft, needs some touch ups. The Coal Chronicles - Book IV is half done. I was writing Book III and had some thoughts for Book IV so I put them down.  Just a hint, Book IV tells about some of the challenges that are faced with the stove. There are a few. Hope you can read it.

Again, thanks to all of you who have commented so far.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the very nice comment Bobby, I do hope the Hitzer has been working out well for you. Ours will cook us clean out of the basement.  Absolutely love that thing. </p>
<p>A bit of history and explanation for the stove. We are originally from Michigan, we moved to Ohio in 2003. We moved from our duplex to our current house in December 2004. A week later the enormous ice storm hit NE Ohio, I am sure you remember it. Power was out for the better part of a week. Keep in mind the house is almost completely run on electricity, heat, hot water, stove, etc. For a week we had just about nothing. The fire place had not been used in the house for a long time. I did have it inspected before we moved in and it got a clean bill of health. We went to the local Lowes and got a screen for it, paid the long dollar for a load of wood, and huddled around the fire just about the whole time. All of us in one room for five days. </p>
<p>After that I wanted to ensure our warmth and reduce the heating bills. Unlike many of the corn/pellet stoves the Hitzer does not need electricity. Sure it has a fan, but it will keep us warm without the fan.</p>
<p>The Coal Chronicles &#8211; Book III is done getting written and is in draft, needs some touch ups. The Coal Chronicles &#8211; Book IV is half done. I was writing Book III and had some thoughts for Book IV so I put them down.  Just a hint, Book IV tells about some of the challenges that are faced with the stove. There are a few. Hope you can read it.</p>
<p>Again, thanks to all of you who have commented so far.</p>
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		<title>By: bobmakita7777</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 14:19:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, I have a hitzer coal stove(the 30-95 which Lehmans sells) set in front of our fireplace and this is my 1st  year with it. I live in Trumbull county in NE Ohio.   Since October I have used 1-1/2 tons of nut coal for a cost of about $300, about 30# a day, $75 a month. Bought it in bulk, hauled it myself in my truck and store in a bin in my garage that doubles as a workbench top.  Living room is 74* and upstairs is 65*.  1500 sq/ft cape cod.  The stove will easily pay for itself this year over the cost of oil heat, and 2 years over for when we used to burn wood and oil for when the wood fire died down. Love the stove and ease of use.  Greg, you have a great blog and I am looking forward to part 3. Also saw your video on the stove on You tube, good one and helpful. Thanks again-Bobby</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, I have a hitzer coal stove(the 30-95 which Lehmans sells) set in front of our fireplace and this is my 1st  year with it. I live in Trumbull county in NE Ohio.   Since October I have used 1-1/2 tons of nut coal for a cost of about $300, about 30# a day, $75 a month. Bought it in bulk, hauled it myself in my truck and store in a bin in my garage that doubles as a workbench top.  Living room is 74* and upstairs is 65*.  1500 sq/ft cape cod.  The stove will easily pay for itself this year over the cost of oil heat, and 2 years over for when we used to burn wood and oil for when the wood fire died down. Love the stove and ease of use.  Greg, you have a great blog and I am looking forward to part 3. Also saw your video on the stove on You tube, good one and helpful. Thanks again-Bobby</p>
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		<title>By: Emmo213</title>
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		<dc:creator>Emmo213</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 16:51:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, good to know. That makes a huge difference! Thanks for looking into it. I look forward to your other installments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, good to know. That makes a huge difference! Thanks for looking into it. I look forward to your other installments.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2008 19:16:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Coal Truth!

Toward the end of the weekend (January 27,2008) I am finding that my original estimates of 60-80 lbs of coal in a 24 hour period are a bit high (sorry about that). I started on Friday at 5:00, measured the bucket of coal and loaded the stove after cleaning out the ash. My son and I started a spreadsheet of coal usage, basement temperature, house temperature and outside temperature. We came up with this chart. I will continue to update this till Monday when I get home. &lt;table border=&quot;1&quot;&gt;
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		&lt;td&gt;day&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;coal&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;basement temp&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;house temp&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;outside temp&lt;/td&gt;
	&lt;/tr&gt;
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		&lt;td&gt;Fri 5pm&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;27lbs&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;80&#176;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;68&#176;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;27&#176;&lt;/td&gt;
	&lt;/tr&gt;
	&lt;tr&gt;
		&lt;td&gt;Sat 7am&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;21Lbs&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;84&#176;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;68&#176;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;18&#176;&lt;/td&gt;
	&lt;/tr&gt;
	&lt;tr&gt;
		&lt;td&gt;Sat 4pm&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;15Lbs&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;80&#176;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;68&#176;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;30&#176;&lt;/td&gt;
	&lt;/tr&gt;
	&lt;tr&gt;
		&lt;td&gt;Sat 9pm&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;12Lbs&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;80&#176;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;67&#176;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;25&#176;&lt;/td&gt;
	&lt;/tr&gt;
	&lt;tr&gt;
		&lt;td&gt;Sun 11am&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;18Lbs&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;86&#176;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;67&#176;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td&gt;30&#176;&lt;/td&gt;
	&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;/table&gt;
Turns out it is around 40Lbs a day not 60-80Lbs. I have not been measuring the coal usage as closely this year because the coal I have is stored in large barrels not in the bags. Turns out the bucket I have been using to fill the stove will hold between 12 and 18 Lbs of coal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Coal Truth!</p>
<p>Toward the end of the weekend (January 27,2008) I am finding that my original estimates of 60-80 lbs of coal in a 24 hour period are a bit high (sorry about that). I started on Friday at 5:00, measured the bucket of coal and loaded the stove after cleaning out the ash. My son and I started a spreadsheet of coal usage, basement temperature, house temperature and outside temperature. We came up with this chart. I will continue to update this till Monday when I get home.<br />
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<td>day</td>
<td>coal</td>
<td>basement temp</td>
<td>house temp</td>
<td>outside temp</td>
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<td>Fri 5pm</td>
<td>27lbs</td>
<td>80&deg;</td>
<td>68&deg;</td>
<td>27&deg;</td>
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<td>Sat 7am</td>
<td>21Lbs</td>
<td>84&deg;</td>
<td>68&deg;</td>
<td>18&deg;</td>
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<td>Sat 4pm</td>
<td>15Lbs</td>
<td>80&deg;</td>
<td>68&deg;</td>
<td>30&deg;</td>
</tr>
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<td>Sat 9pm</td>
<td>12Lbs</td>
<td>80&deg;</td>
<td>67&deg;</td>
<td>25&deg;</td>
</tr>
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<td>Sun 11am</td>
<td>18Lbs</td>
<td>86&deg;</td>
<td>67&deg;</td>
<td>30&deg;</td>
</tr>
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<p>Turns out it is around 40Lbs a day not 60-80Lbs. I have not been measuring the coal usage as closely this year because the coal I have is stored in large barrels not in the bags. Turns out the bucket I have been using to fill the stove will hold between 12 and 18 Lbs of coal.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 16:06:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Emmo213 This weekend I will carefully monitor the coal usage, this would be interesting to post. 

Information like coal (by weight), temperatures (inside/outside) would be useful.

My options for heating are limited, the house is all electric (heating, water heater, stove, etc.). I looked into putting in a forced air system, some type of boiler, etc. Turns out the cost would probably not be recouped. 

You are right the ambiance is nice, the same rational is used to run our fireplace! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Emmo213 This weekend I will carefully monitor the coal usage, this would be interesting to post. </p>
<p>Information like coal (by weight), temperatures (inside/outside) would be useful.</p>
<p>My options for heating are limited, the house is all electric (heating, water heater, stove, etc.). I looked into putting in a forced air system, some type of boiler, etc. Turns out the cost would probably not be recouped. </p>
<p>You are right the ambiance is nice, the same rational is used to run our fireplace! <img src='http://countrylife.lehmans.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Emmo213</title>
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		<dc:creator>Emmo213</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 14:20:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your reply. While I&#039;m currently living in an apartment right off of Lake Erie, I&#039;ve been looking at purchasing a house in the same area, and the costs associated with a house. $300 a month in coal seems like alot to me, but I&#039;m just spoiled with my $40 natural gas bill. Natural gas doesn&#039;t even come close though to the ambiance and whatnot of a real fire though. I look forward to your next article!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your reply. While I&#8217;m currently living in an apartment right off of Lake Erie, I&#8217;ve been looking at purchasing a house in the same area, and the costs associated with a house. $300 a month in coal seems like alot to me, but I&#8217;m just spoiled with my $40 natural gas bill. Natural gas doesn&#8217;t even come close though to the ambiance and whatnot of a real fire though. I look forward to your next article!</p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 13:34:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the comment gafisher

I have a pretty good start on Book III.

That must have been some experience in the Ukraine, I have been as far east as Eastern Germany, not quite that far. 

I mentioned the stories that I heard about the coal burning furnace in the basement of my Grandparents farmhouse in Book I. My Uncle told me those stories and they caused some negative feelings about the idea of a coal burning stove in my house. 

The &quot;hard&quot; or &quot;anthracite&quot; coal is definitely still coal, just greatly improved in my humble opinion. This stove stays hot, it is a steady heat, very comfortable bordering on a bit too hot in the basement but not uncomfortable. 

Regarding the &quot;memorable scent&quot; of the coal, I am a very avid lover of old agricultural iron. I am absolutely fascinated by &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traction_engine&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;steam traction engines&lt;/a&gt;. I actually enjoy the smell of the coal burning in those machines, this coal does not have quite that smell. I would characterize the smell as slightly less appealing but not objectionable.

I have seen photos of the monstrosity that graced the basement of my Grandparents home, I can tell you the Hitzer takes up considerably less space and is much easier on the eye! :).

In Book III I plan to detail the way I am circulating heat in the house. It should prove to be a fairly interesting post. I am hoping to finish it over the weekend and possibly post it by mid next week, but don&#039;t hold me to it, I am working on a video too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the comment gafisher</p>
<p>I have a pretty good start on Book III.</p>
<p>That must have been some experience in the Ukraine, I have been as far east as Eastern Germany, not quite that far. </p>
<p>I mentioned the stories that I heard about the coal burning furnace in the basement of my Grandparents farmhouse in Book I. My Uncle told me those stories and they caused some negative feelings about the idea of a coal burning stove in my house. </p>
<p>The &#8220;hard&#8221; or &#8220;anthracite&#8221; coal is definitely still coal, just greatly improved in my humble opinion. This stove stays hot, it is a steady heat, very comfortable bordering on a bit too hot in the basement but not uncomfortable. </p>
<p>Regarding the &#8220;memorable scent&#8221; of the coal, I am a very avid lover of old agricultural iron. I am absolutely fascinated by <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traction_engine" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">steam traction engines</a>. I actually enjoy the smell of the coal burning in those machines, this coal does not have quite that smell. I would characterize the smell as slightly less appealing but not objectionable.</p>
<p>I have seen photos of the monstrosity that graced the basement of my Grandparents home, I can tell you the Hitzer takes up considerably less space and is much easier on the eye! <img src='http://countrylife.lehmans.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> .</p>
<p>In Book III I plan to detail the way I am circulating heat in the house. It should prove to be a fairly interesting post. I am hoping to finish it over the weekend and possibly post it by mid next week, but don&#8217;t hold me to it, I am working on a video too.</p>
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		<title>By: gafisher</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 12:54:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had the privilege of teaching for a time in the coal mining region of Ukraine.  I recall stepping outside on the first cold morning, taking a breath, and suddenly being transported in my mind to the home where, as a child, I &quot;helped&quot; my Dad tend the huge coal-burning furnace which, with its plenum and huge ducts, dominated the basement.
 
It&#039;s hard to imagine the many improvements which have apparently reduced the space and labor demands of wood and coal heating systems, but even though &quot;hard&quot; coal has significantly replaced the &quot;soft&quot; coal we grew up with, at its heart coal is still coal.  But I have to wonder -- does it still spice the air with that memorable scent?
 
I look forward to &quot;Book III&quot; with anticipation.  From the photos it appears the Hitzer is an especially decorative stove; I&#039;ll be interested to see if it&#039;s as effective as you hope for whole-house heating, and to learn what adaptations, such as registers or ducts, you might find useful in adapting your home to this venerable and reliable source of heat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had the privilege of teaching for a time in the coal mining region of Ukraine.  I recall stepping outside on the first cold morning, taking a breath, and suddenly being transported in my mind to the home where, as a child, I &#8220;helped&#8221; my Dad tend the huge coal-burning furnace which, with its plenum and huge ducts, dominated the basement.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s hard to imagine the many improvements which have apparently reduced the space and labor demands of wood and coal heating systems, but even though &#8220;hard&#8221; coal has significantly replaced the &#8220;soft&#8221; coal we grew up with, at its heart coal is still coal.  But I have to wonder &#8212; does it still spice the air with that memorable scent?</p>
<p>I look forward to &#8220;Book III&#8221; with anticipation.  From the photos it appears the Hitzer is an especially decorative stove; I&#8217;ll be interested to see if it&#8217;s as effective as you hope for whole-house heating, and to learn what adaptations, such as registers or ducts, you might find useful in adapting your home to this venerable and reliable source of heat.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2008 14:59:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you very much for the comment.

This is something I was thinking could be covered in the next post (The Coal Chronicles - Book III. The answer is not as simple as I would like it to be. Obviously on warmer days we use less coal and more on colder days. The current rate of consumption (it has been darn cold around North East Ohio) is estimated to be about 60-80 lbs a day or 1.5 to 2 - 40lb bags. Depending on where you live, what you are using as your primary heating source, and the cost of that heating source, this turns out to be a bargain. Another factor is how warm you need (or more specifically in most cases, your wife needs) the house. We typically like the house at about 68&#176;. I will dive more into this topic when I post Book III.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you very much for the comment.</p>
<p>This is something I was thinking could be covered in the next post (The Coal Chronicles &#8211; Book III. The answer is not as simple as I would like it to be. Obviously on warmer days we use less coal and more on colder days. The current rate of consumption (it has been darn cold around North East Ohio) is estimated to be about 60-80 lbs a day or 1.5 to 2 &#8211; 40lb bags. Depending on where you live, what you are using as your primary heating source, and the cost of that heating source, this turns out to be a bargain. Another factor is how warm you need (or more specifically in most cases, your wife needs) the house. We typically like the house at about 68&deg;. I will dive more into this topic when I post Book III.</p>
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